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Fitna of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Or Fitna Of Javed Ahmad Ghamdi
« on: October 03, 2007, 09:42:40 AM »
Assalam U Aalaikum

We should refrain ourselves and instruct others to refrain from the writings, speeches and programs of Javed Ahmed Ghamdi who is the head of Al Mawrid Institute Lahore, Renaissance, Understanding Islam, Islamic Issues ets.

The gentleman and his affiliates are deviants to the extreme of rejecting the Nasoos of the Quran let alone the Hadith. Ghamdi has insulted the Ulemas of Deoband in his book burhan.

He rejects

1. Any form of Had (Prescribed Punishment),
2. Hadith to be direct
3. Nazool Eesa Alahi Salam and his Life (like Qadiyanis)
4. Had for an Apostate (Murtad)
5. Claims the 7 recitations of quran to be wrong (he is a close ally and aide of Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer)
6. Music and Dancing of all sorts is permissible
7. Jihad against oppression is the only jihad allowed
8. The Shahadat of a man and woman are equal
9. There is no concept of Purdah (Hijab / Veil) in Islam,

Apart from this he is flying high these days by coming on TV brought by GEO Television. Mr. Ghamidi has special interest in Asma Jahangir and Qadinyanis much of whose ideology is reflected in his articles.

One of his student Khalid Zaheer is Munkareen Hadith Like Islahi, Farahi, Ghulam Ahmed Pervez, Allama Mashriqui. Khalid Zaheer is a professor at LUMS, Lahore (one can expect him to be in places like this). the following link gives some overview of Khalid Zaheer's thoughts

Ghamidi's books are Bayan, Mizan and Burhan, the last one being a mockery of Islam, Prophets, Companions, Imams, Muhaditheen and Mufasereens. They are seldomly available in Pakistan but are available at Danish Sara which are regional centers for Ghamidi's Operations.

The aim of this posting is to request all members not to fall into the traps of Ghamidi. At present he is being fully supported by the Qadiyani Lobby against the Hudood Ordinance. The next target given to GEO and Ghamidi is surely to fight against the 295-C Blasphemy Law, to accomodate Qadiyanis.


Ghamdi does not claim to refute the status of Hadith directly yet he takes it a stage further ahead and categorizes hadith as something from which Ahkaam (Rulings) cannot be drawn and only Quran is the orignal source. He goest on to say that some Ahadith have been misinterpreted by ALL (yes ALL) the Imams, Mufasirs, Muhaditheen, Fuqah, Ulemas etc. To quote an example is his refutation of the Hadith that says (it is a Mafhoom) Whosoever Changes His Faith, Kill Him.

According to Ghamidi the ruling on Qital (Killing a Person) when he becomes a Murtad (Apostate) doesnot apply to present times. It was restricted to the time of Holy Prophet Salal Lahu Aalahi Wassalam and after that it had become Mauqoof. (Burhan, by Ghamidi). Ghamidi says that this Hadith has been misinterpreted by all the Ulemas for 1200 years wherein the meaining of Umoom (Generality) has been taken at large. Therefore he concludes that a person cannot be executed if he decides to change his religion from Islam because there is no evidence of it in Quran and Sunnah.

Ghamidi and his disciples also use the word Quran and Sunnah and separate Hadith from Sunnah.

He calls them the Shabistan Shibli of Knowledge and hails them as the reformists of this time. He has castigated Maulana Rashid Ahmed Gangohi (RA), Qasim Nanatwi (RA), Shaykh ul Hind, Syed Hussain Ahmed Madani, Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Allama Shabbir Ahmed Uthmani and calls them Bigots. According to Ghamidi this group of people (Deobandis) are like an old building with rotten foundations that will become empty by itself through passage of time.

Ghamadi enjoys special company with Robert Spencer and Danielt Pipes. What is interesting is that Ghamdi and his associates particularly Moiz Amjad have tried to defend Islam against the criticism of Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer and have miserably (deliberately) failed! In fact they have subscribed to the views of these two critics with special reference to the 7 Recitations of Quran, which according to Ghamdi and his teachers are practices of Juhul and have no place in Islam.

May Allah Save Us All From This Fitna

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Re: Fitna of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 02:47:49 PM »
JazakAllah khyr brother Sa'ad for this very important and informative article. A friend happened to mention the fitna of this man to me a few days back. I was not really well aware of him.

May Allah save us all from such fitnah, and may He demolish this fitnah very soon. Amin

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Re: Fitna of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2007, 12:26:21 AM »
1. You should read the book "Fitna-e-Modudiat" written by Shaikh-ul-Hadeeth Hazrat Moulana Zakaria Rahmatullah Alaih.

2. Ameen Islahi and Hameed-ud-Deen Farahi were the "Munkireen-e-Hadith".

3. Tafheem-ul-Quran is "Tafseer bir Rai".Details are in the above mentioned book.

  u can contact Mufti M.Taqi Usmani Sahib on his office tel# 5043192 (timings:12:00 pm to 1:00 pm PST only).

Allah Ta'ala Hamain Deen Ki Saheeh Samajh-o-Fahm Ata Farmai.Ameen!

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Re: Fitna of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2007, 04:07:04 PM »
Javed Ahmad Ghamidi, together with his disciples Khalid Zaheer, Moiz Amjad and others is spreading ULTRA-MODERNIST & DANGEROUS ideas in Pakistan through Geo TV and AAJ Tv etc.

They have also set up various 'institutes' to impart religious education to the masses.

Amongst the dangerous ideas that they believe in and promote are the following:

1. Questioning the validity and authenticity of hadiths, in imitation of goldziher and schacht & other orientalists.

2. Denying in the descent of Sayyidna 'Isa bin Maryam (alayhis salaam).

3. Denying the trial of the Dajjal.

4. Not believing in the following of the 4 Sunni schools of fiqh.

5. Denying the concept of hijab in Islam.


There is a good refutation of Ghamidi et al. but unfortunately it is ONLY available in Urdu. I have read some of it and it seems very good but my Urdu is not good enough to translate it into English.

If there are any brothers/sisters who can translate this refutation from Urdu to English then it would be helpful.

Meanwhile please tell all your freinds and family about the fitna and confusion that Ghamidi and his crew are causing.

May Allah Ta'aala protect all the Muslims from false individuals and ideologies.

Faraz Haque

[taken from deenport]

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The following is said by a qadiyani (La'natullah Alaeh) that Ghamdi is also their companion:

Pakistan’s well-known scholar of Islam Javed Ahmad Ghamdi, who appreciates the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement literature, in his Dunya TV program ‘Deen-o-Danish’ has answered a question that quotes Qadiani Khalifa 2 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad (QK2) statement. The question quotes QK2 book ‘Anwar-ul-Aloom’ volume 2, page 151, ‘Aina-e-Sadaqqat’.

Link to you tube video. Please watch at 4 mins 43 secs:
‘Ahmadiyya Important Questions, Answers by Ghamidi’

Dr. Khalid Zaheer, student and colleague of Javed Ahmad Ghamdi (another appreciator of LAM literature) in multi-part you tube video produced by his institution has replied to Qadiani Jamaat arguments that they present from Holy Quran to establish “prophet-hood” of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib. By using word ‘Ahmadis’ Dr. Khalid Zaheer means ‘Qadianis’:
‘Ahmadis and Khatme Nubuwwat’

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Re: Fitna of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Or Fitna Of Javed Ahmad Ghamdi
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 09:38:27 AM »
Well we are present at that world where people love to give dictations, lectures, huge piece of advices but no one want to to work on their self. People find no time for good work but have plenty of time to do bad work like teasing people, irritating, pinching and annoying others. what are we doing we all Muslim ummah are now busy in insulting the Islam, its ways, al the time when we do wrong things we tell other person that it is all according to Islam what is this??? is that we picturing the good image of Islam and when we saw non Muslim doing such acts like burning the Quran, drawing Prophet pictures and more then we say they are insulting us. first we all have to do is to look around our necks rather then garbing others neck.